The natural Person Alan Simon Crowcroft, the legal Person Alan Simon Crowcroft OR the legal Person the Constable of St Helier Which is he at this snapshot in time? |
This time I am going to use the proper legal terms which are bold in italics.
Note that none of what I have reproduced below has ever been admitted to, accepted or confirmed by any Law Officer, Advocate or Solicitor in Jersey, but neither has it been denied. The Law is deliberately complicated to make sure that you do not understand it (and ultimately it comes down to one person's opinion, and no Jersey lawyer or judge is an expert in Human Rights). Do not take my word for any of the below, go out and do your own research.
For a parking penalty to be enforceable in a Court, against you the following needs to be proven:
- That you were the driver of the car.
- That you contravened the relevant section of the Road Traffic Act
- That the potential for vicarious liability to the government has been caused, and that as a result the penalties set out in statute apply.
- That due process has been followed
Under the current system only #2 is usually proven, however if you simply show up to a Parish Hall enquiry or the Magistrate's Court, both those tribunals will act upon the presumption that all four are proven, it is for you to challenge that presumption of law ask for proof of claim.
This is relatively simple just e-mail the Constable and ask him to provide proof of his claims.
The most difficult for the Constable to prove is 3.
A vicarious liability can be defined as the liability created by an action or non action by a person, working on behalf of him when he is responsible for all the action or inaction of such person within the limits of their association. So when an employee or worker cause a loss to somebody in the normal course of his duty then the employer will be responsible for such loss. (Reference)Once Vicarious Liability is established with the Government as the employer, you are then liable to abide by the statutes which are the rules concerning the conduct of Agents of the Government. Essentially you are asking the Constable to prove that you were working for the government at the time. It is only through vicarious liability that statute can apply to legal persons.
So I guess you are now going to ask me why the government has to be able to show that they have vicarious liability for your actions?
All of this is tied into Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, the right to a Private Life.
In particular any limitation must be: in accordance with law; necessary and proportionate; and for one or more of the following legitimate aims:
- the interests of national security;
- the interests of public safety or the economic well-being of the country;
- the prevention of disorder or crime;
- the protection of health or morals; or
- the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
The important thing to remember is that the ECHR is based exclusively on UK Common Law - your Private Life is every part of your life which is not Public (i.e. is not the execution of government duties).
Now can anyone explain which of the legitimate aims above would allow the government to dictate when you or I, as private individuals, can park, for how long or where we can park as long as it is not in a place which is likely to cause an accident (such as at the corner of a junction)?
Article 8 may as well say 'And it harm none do as you will'.
The Natural Person is you in your Private Life, the Legal Person is you in your Public Life or when acting as an Agent of the Government.
Ever wondered why the only Statute on the book which does not use the term 'person' is the Human Rights (Jersey) Law 2000?
The ECHR is specifically designed to prevent the intrusion of Government into our lives, to prevent over-regulation and ensure our freedom and liberty.
The Case Law is there, finding it is your task and will depend on the specifics of the case you are dealing with. The Right to smoke cannabis has been tested for example, but at the moment the Courts have not been minded to allow this, but this is not a unanimous judicial opinion.
On the other hand if the government has a choice between foregoing a £30 fine or facing years of ruinously expensive litigation to argue the point, maybe the cases are just dropped by the government for sound financial and/or business reasons and I'm sure that that is the excuse they will always make to avoid having to answer the pertinent question.
It is easier whilst 95% of people receiving parking tickets pay them, not to make too much fuss about those that don't.
Darius/Ian.
ReplyDeleteIan has pretty much hit the nail on the head with the link he posted. This is Jersey, the courts just do what the hell they like, make it up as they go along and answer to nobody.
Being right, or in the right, counts for absolutely nothing in a Jersey court.
Well there is a difference - parking tickets are an infraction, rates are voted on directly by the people (if they choose to attend the Rates assembly), you personally could have attended the meeting and said no I want the rate lowered and cast your vote directly... that is not quite the same as Statute.
ReplyDeleteAnyhow I suspect that somewhere along the line you made a mistake (possibly in your correspondence with the Constable?) I suspect that you did not file your own 'bundle' of papers to support your case and oppose the Parish's, the judge simply went on the case before him as represented in the paperwork.
ReplyDeleteOh, I forgot, they will not let you file at the court either! We went in to file our papers one time and they said "you can't file here, you have to file at the town hall" WTF???
ReplyDeletee-mail me at dariuspearce@yahoo.co.uk and I'll send through where I am up to...
ReplyDeleteTHE COURT PROCESS
ReplyDeleteInitial Hearing
Hearing to jurisdiction
Directions hearing
Trial
Sentence
(NOTE there can be more than one hearing at each of these stages)
If you refuse to acknowledge that you are the person (which you cannot realistically deny as who else is authorised to be that person?)
You need to acknowledge that you are that person to be able to address the Court. For the time you spend addressing the Court, you are that person. If you are not a party to the case it is none of your business.
So at the initial hearing if you state that you are not the person they have called, then that person is in default (or dishonour) and summary judgement may be given... and in your case it has been.
You need to make the 'I'm a Man not a Person' argument at the hearing to determine jurisdiction since that argument is simply saying you do not have jurisdiction as I was acting as the Natural Person (God's trustee) not the Legal Person (the government's trustee) at the time the alleged infraction occurred.
It does not matter what person you are when you speak to the Court it matters what person you were when the infraction occurred.
The Court file is not opened until after the initial hearing - the prosecution will not file a full claim. You as defendant can only RESPOND once a claim has been made. So the greffier was right you could not file at the Court, yet.
Once this has been disclosed the Court then considers whether it can hear the case (at a hearing to jurisdiction) and only once jurisdiction is established can any hearing on the claim proceed.
You are not being defeated by law but by lack of knowledge of the process...
It is not their corruption, but if you will forgive me, your ignorance, which has allowed them to rule against you.
I welcome any thoughts from you or Cyril on this.
"You need to acknowledge that you are that person to be able to address the Court."
ReplyDeleteAre you MAD?
I guess we'll find out 27th Feb. But it makes no sense to me that anyone other a person who is a party can address a Court.
ReplyDeleteWhen the judge says 'I cannot hear you', as I know she has said to you before perhaps she means that 'the statutory court cannot hear a natural person'? It certainly makes more sense to me that way.
So I shall go to Court as a legal person, plead not guilty, if they do not drop the charge, ask for a hearing to jurisdiction and then make the case that I was not acting as a person at the time the alleged infraction occurred.
I shall force them to give a written judgement and then they can pick holes in the theory to their heart's content and I can refine it and try again next time and the next time until I get it right.
Then if that fails we have plan b and plan c.
"I cannot hear you"
ReplyDeleteMeans that they are saying that they "cannot hear the Law"
We have done it right and they just ignore it and act as they please. If Shaw is not acting under her oath of office, then she is not acting as a judge/magistrate and therefore cannot issue a judgement, it is as simple as that!
ReplyDeleteLike I said, totally corrupt judges!!!
Think of it this way... an innocent man does not turn up at the Court on the first day, say I'm innocent, walk out and then it's all over and done with.
ReplyDeleteThere are weeks and weeks of mental stress put on you to try and make you crack and plead guilty, if you have a lawyer then he constantly tells you to plead guilty unless you are paying him. You know innocent people plead guilty all the time in Jersey.
The legal person Ian Leslie Evans does exist and you have your birth certificate to prove it, maybe that person is not flesh and blood but the flesh and blood man is the only authorised representative of that legal person.
If the Legal Person is summoned to Court he has to go, he has to go through the whole process as any innocent man would.
If the Legal Person does not turn up then summary judgement can be given (because summary judgements are easily over-turned, and are over-turned on request).
They have NO RIGHT even communicating with a man or woman absent their consent, a simple notice tells us this as they never respond to the lawful notice.
ReplyDeleteAn unrebutted notice is more than enough to dismiss, yet these corrupt clowns ignore them and push for their £30 or £40 with their lives.
You need to get your head around this, it is called corruption!
"Maybe if you gave them notice as the PERSON that you were acting as a MAN at the time and it went un-rebutted...
ReplyDeleteI can and do act at different times of the day as one of the following:
Darius Pearce (the Man)
Darius Pearce (the Person)
Darius Pearce (Director of my company)
Simon Crowcroft is at various times
Simon Crowcroft the man
Simon Crowcroft the person
The Constable of St Helier."
I am ALWAYS the man, how could I possibly be anything else Darius?
"It is said that a man is three things,
What he thinks he is,
What others think he is,
And what he really is,
Which of these do you believe to be true?"
Yes Ian you are right you are always the Man, I am always the Man.
ReplyDeleteBut the basis of the law is that...
The Man can be judged by God alone, the Man can only be ordered by Courts to make restitution for harms caused, and never punished. God is omniscient and knows our deepest thoughts and every action we take, we are always answerable to Him. We all await our final reckoning which shall be at God's hands, and He shall judge us.
But do you recognise that you are sometimes the Person? Like when you chose to register to vote? At that point you were choosing to be the Person, because only the Person has the right to vote.
The Man has god-given rights, but voting is a government given right and it is given to the Person.
In filling in that form and in completing the rights that arose from it you were choosing to be a Person for those time periods.
hahaha,
ReplyDeleteI don't want to reverse ALL THOSE JUDGEMENTS, for the simple reason that the Viscount's department cannot ever enforce them, one sweetly written notice and there is silence forever!
By fighting me 'n' the squirrel, all they will (corruptly) achieve is the judgements, nothing else, just a preliminary judgement that hits the headlines and goes in the paper! So what???
Let us see if they ever collect on any of their 'ALLEGED' debts???
I say absolutely NO!!!
I am with you there, if all your property belongs to the man then they cannot take it from you.
ReplyDeleteWhat time on the 27th?
ReplyDeleteYour first visit to court for this ticket is equivalent to an arraignment its purpose is to establish jurisdiction,done formally by you entering a plea, entering a plea(any plea) in an administrative court is consent to jurisdiction of the judges choice.
ReplyDeleteother ways your express or tacit consent can be inferred are;
asking if you under stand the charge and you saying yes
by calling and you responding to the title Mr.
telling you to sit,stand,be quiet etc. and you obeying.
giving,when asked your name,address and date of birth.
your legal fiction person can act in several capacities.
in trusts;
beneficiary/ executor or trustee
as a government agent/employee.
as your vessel to sail the fictional sea of commerce.
the person can never be the man,
the man can act in any legal way for the person.
It would be great if trust was the key in 'court', but
as the 'magistrates' can change jurisdiction when they want and without telling you,well, like you say, lets see
good luck
cyril
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"
ReplyDeleteSo it is self-evident that our creator has endowed us with rights (why Endowed? Endowment is a trust)
How carefully do you think the Founding Fathers worded their declaration? I imagine they spent weeks quibbling over the exact text...
That's 30 witnesses I can call to aid my case...
The Father is the beneficiary, the Son is the executor of the trust who gave us the rules we must abide by, and the Spirit is the trustee ('we are all imbued with His spirit' or we are all His 'trustees').
The Court simply cannot deny God as it claims its own rights from God. (We are a Christian society).
Man caused government to be formed (beneficiary), Government makes the rules (executive), Legal Person (trustee must follow rules).
Statute only applies to Legal Person not to man. Only when Man can be shown to have committed breach of God's trust (to break Common Law) can he be made to make restitutions.
So in the ECHR (which also applies to non-common law contries and non-Christian societies) they change the terms to Private Person and Public Person, but the difference IS recognised.
So as far as I can see everything fits the hypothesis... unless you or Ian can see something that does not. A hypothesis needs to be tested and it will either found to be correct or incorrect and in need of refinement.
See that Catholic eduction came in useful!
Sorry forgot to say 2.30pm
ReplyDeleteAs an aside...
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that the Deputy Bailiff did not refute your Claim of Right... I think it proves you are on the right track.
But filing a claim that you are a man, which no one has ever denied or sought to deny, in any case, I wonder if that is the right approach.
If you NEVER want to be the Legal Person, then maybe it would be better to dissolve it, like you would a company.
I wonder if there is a legal mechanism in place other than by filing a death certificate?